my grandparents left the anti-semitic pegrams of russia to come here to recognize a better life. in the same way, these children were taken, again, due to no fault of their own. it seems to me that's the best place to start. >> you would support the dream act? >> i have put out a proposal. i don't know what the dream act at this point is. what i say is, we've got a place i think all of us can come together, and that is for the kids. now -- >> can you bring conservatives along to supporting a pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants who are here without having to first leave the country? >> there is a lot of movement right now in the house and the senate, both sides of the aisle, with folks having a lot of different ideas. i think -- >> yes or no to that question, because you could really do it. if you went all in, you could bring along the right ain the house, don't you? >> i think a good place to start is children. and listen, here's the difficulty on this issue, i think, and it is because we've got families who are here that have become part of the fabric of our country, r